Regular maintenance

Ok, we all know the importance of regular maintenance and checking of these bikes, especially as they are getting older and the oxide / corrosion / rust is creeping in at an ever increasing rate.

Whilst I had considered myself a devot'e to the preservation of these ageing icons, I must admit I have run foul of my own ignorance!

In the past couple of weeks I have found the front brake lever "sticking" on first application after some K's of not touching it. After a coupe of grabs, feels normal. Immediately I presumed that the fault must be in the master cylinder and as most of you would agree, I cringed at the thought of having to stop and re-build ( brake fluid everywhere, Ahhh. And th bleeding, double Ahhh ).

Then, I thought to ones self.
- It's been almost 2 years since the full re-build.
- let's check the pivot bolt in case it needs needs Lube.

Well, I am ashamed at the state I found the working in!
All joints were dry.
There was obvious wear.
The build up of residue would make any joint / pivot point stick.

So, 10 mins of cleaning away the residue,greasing the joints and checki Ng the action was very productive. The feel and action from a firm grip was encouraging.

In short, recommend checking / cleaning / and lubing all pivot points on regular basis.
It may sound like I'm stating the obvious, but on review of the original Kat service manual I did find some definate gaps. And considering these were written for new bikes off the showroom, we should consider the added requirements for these senior citizen class of equipment.

Well I'm going to address the clutch lever tomorrow as it has same # of K's under the seat strap.

Maybe it's time the collective SKA forum put together a chart of scheduled maintenance recommendations? As am sure that new member would welcome any advise, suggesting.

As a local bik service center commented to me," your bike is older than all of my mechanics, they have no idea of how to servic or work on them!"

Side note, have asked for a bike lifter platform for this years full present requests from family!

Cheers
Stuart
 
As a local bik service center commented to me," your bike is older than all of my mechanics, they have no idea of how to servic or work on them!"


Cheers
Stuart
What a dumb thing to say. Apart from the electrickery and injection they are all the same bikes?
Hopefully it was just a joke.

Nige
 
Sorry Nige,
No joke.

The average age of his techs was around 23.
He also is the local Hyosong dealer!!!

The guy has been in motorcycling a long time, but feel he is not wanting to get his hand dirty anymore and leaving the daily service issues to the young ones!

He is happy to sell me parts / chains etc, but does not want to touch the bike.
Thankfully, a couple,of other sites have looked at it, but I'm also gearing myself up for the apocalypse and making sure I have most items on hand to repair / test / adjust the Kat myself!
 
Yeh I found it best to learn what I am capable of and the more I do it the more confidence I find. No confidence on a job I ask and places like this site are invaluable with there help and expertise.
I am also lucky that I have an old school bike shop (small) that I have used for years when I am stuck.

Nige
 
This whole 'the bike is too old for us to service' thing is utter bullshit.


An older bike is simpler to work on and service than anything less than five years old.
I have to disassemble the entire side of the Hayabusa to get to the oil filter, yet I can get to the one on the Kat by undoing five nuts.

And there's no issue with consumables or parts - oil and air filters, spark plugs, gaskets are readily available, and the methods required to perform basic servicing are the fucking same.

Jesus, carbs are easier to work on than fuel injection...

Boggles my mind the reasoning behind this.
 
Agree that older bikes should be easier to work on for access and generally simpler. Boggles me also, but that's the comment that was made.
I think it's more them being worried how to troubleshoot a problem without being able to connect a diagnostic device when there is no CPU.

Also, might be worried about being blamed for making things worse given the age of the bikes.
 
I suppose the potential for creating a problem that didn't exist prior is slightly higher with an older bike given the state of wiring/connectors/corroded bolts and screws etc...


But any mechanic worth half his salt should be easily able to circumvent these sorts of issues with care, attention and mechanical sympathy.

Oh, wait...
 
You guys are missing the whole point... how do they have time to update their facebook status when they're actually working on a bike? Think of all the time they have free when they have a computer telling them what's wrong...

But seriously, I'll bet apprentice mechanics don't ever get exposed to older bikes and technology any more, their courses are probably geared more towards how to interpret computer codes and so forth than actual troubleshooting skills. I see it at work all the time too, relying on Google for every small IT problem that comes along... troubleshooting skills are going by the wayside very quickly unfortunately.

Stuart, definitely worth while getting your head around servicing it yourself. I figure if I can rebuild the wee beastie from the ground up, then pretty much anyone should be able to service their own GS/GSX...
 
It depends how much you ride it and the conditions you ride in.
Generally I-
-Change oil and filter twice a year.
-Bleed brakes twice a year
-Run around with a can of CRC to keep key barrels water free and slippery twice a year
-Check the pads and discs twice a year (this is the second bike I've had the that floating disc has flogged out a rivet long before the minimum thickness was reached).
-Have a general look over it every month or so, which includes giving the head stem a wobble to check head bearing, fork bushes, swing arm bearings and wheel bearings.
-I do fork oil about every two years (so far).
-Run a spanner over the engine nuts when ever I do a decent amount of maintenance.
-I play it by ear literally for engine noises.
-Check tyre pressure at every fuel stop (mainly because that can be a month or more)
-Oil the chain and check tension at each ride.
I only wash it if it's super dirty and I can ride it straight away to dry it otherwise I use spray can furniture polish with bees wax on a rag to shine it up.

theres a start.
 
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What Ben says but maybe not as frequently as I should but I will change the oil if it looks too foul.
Change the filter every second oil change
Only thing I'd add is I'm a convert to Lanox over CRC/WD40 for any pivot points or pins, levers, clutch cable, metal to metal bits.
 
Agree that older bikes should be easier to work on for access and generally simpler. Boggles me also, but that's the comment that was made.
I think it's more them being worried how to troubleshoot a problem without being able to connect a diagnostic device when there is no CPU.

Also, might be worried about being blamed for making things worse given the age of the bikes.

When I put my my current Katana in for a RWC about this time last year, I said to the bike shop that if there is anything small that needs to be done, please just do it to get it through (time was very tight to make the Island Classic last year) to which he answered Nope, I wont touch it, its too old. He cited that due to it's age, if anything he touches happens to have a problem further on, then he would be liable so he just wont touch them.

That was his take on older bikes. Thankfully it went through fine and I never will use his services again.

Phil
 
I don't know if I'd trust my bike to some of the monkeys that inhabit bike shops. I don't know if it's the same in Oz, but it seems (with a few exceptions) that most of the people who work in bike shops over here are arrogant fucktards.
 
I don't know if I'd trust my bike to some of the monkeys that inhabit bike shops. I don't know if it's the same in Oz, but it seems (with a few exceptions) that most of the people who work in bike shops over here are arrogant fucktards.

These franchised bike shops that Derek loves so much seem to only want to plug'n'play, plus I can sympathise with the thought that when pulling old machines apart, you strip threads snap bolts, break hard to get parts etc. etc. so you cannot blame them.
We have a couple of Old Skool mechanics around who are more than happy to do the work, offer free advice and in general help you keep rolling.
Mick at Motorcycle Mad, Brendale, Brisbane is one such example. Good guy.
 
I don't know if I'd trust my bike to some of the monkeys that inhabit bike shops. I don't know if it's the same in Oz, but it seems (with a few exceptions) that most of the people who work in bike shops over here are arrogant fucktards.

NO!
It's a universal problem.

Am sure there are Alien Spacecraft out there holding together with duct tape and fencing wire ( from when they abducted the cows ), because some three headed rocket mechanic was too busy looking at Facebook / YouTube / tube8 porn all at the same time!;)
 
NO!
It's a universal problem.

Am sure there are Alien Spacecraft out there holding together with duct tape and fencing wire ( from when they abducted the cows ), because some three headed rocket mechanic was too busy looking at Facebook / YouTube / tube8 porn all at the same time!;)

Whoa whoa whoa Stuart, I wouldn't say it's a Universal based issue, as the foot print of our South Pacific/ Arafura/ Indian/ Coral/ Timor/ Tasman/ Bass Ocean/ Sea/ Straight bordered countries are barely 1/65th of Earth's surface let alone a stone chip on the 2 pack gloss that is the universe.
I'm also a qualified rocket mechanic and I don't need 3 heads to watch those channels all at once, what with cable and a 24" Apple Mac.
So let's not react all knee jerkedly like.
So just crack out the furniture polish with bees wax and polish it so if you neglect all the rest at least people will admire the sheen when they drive past it parked up on the side of the highway.

Out! (Drops mike with attitude and struts off stage).
 
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